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Frappe is the greek concept for instant cofee - Democracy is the Athenian concept of government.. Democracy - an ancient word, a form of government, a way of thinking, nothing from these, all together or something more? How ''fresh'' this word is in our era? Can we shape democracy using new technologies and concepts from our times? Questions, thoughts and proposes in a dialogue for her inner core...with a greek colour!

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''Το πολίτευμα που έχουμε επειδή βασίζεται στην κυριαρχία όχι των λίγων αλλά του λαού το ονομάζουμε δημοκρατία'' Θουκυδίδης Περικλέους Επιτάφιος

'' It is true that we are called a democracy, for the administration is in the hands of the many and not of the few.' Thucidides, Pericle's Funeral Oration

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Tuesday, February 26 2008

Where are the public universities??? An erasmus experience...

Hello dear friends,

I am doing my Erasmus in Liege,Belgium and I found it compelling enough to share with you my current experience of studying in another university and also some thoughts over education in our continent.. University of Liege is one of the best universities of Belgium with a high percentage of foreign students (almost 40%). Before the classes begun we took the bus from the city after paying 1.30 euros - an enormous amount for the greek standards and after finding out that there where no discount for students..You can imagine that it was a big shock because in Greece the student ticket for a single route is 0.25 euro!!! After that we went to the campus to find the residence where we would stay these 6 wonderful months to come...but the price is 270 euros for one month while the price for a residence in Greece is 350 euros for a year...!!! The local students informed me also that they have to pay almost 1000 euros per year for the University and they also had to buy the books something we will have to do too just because we are Erasmus...This conversation happened in the restaurant of the university where we payed from 4 to 6 euros to eat.. while in Greece it is 3 euros per year!!! Some Spanish students from Barcelona told me that they also pay the same amount as in Liege...all these for their public university!!! So is this a public university? No I dont think so..it is public only for those who have at least 1000 euros per year to spend for their studies...And where is the acquis for public education which is a duty of the state to its citizens? A right which is supposed to be common for all its citizens? I dont care if the greek university does not recognize ECTS points, the Bologna process or if the political parties play significant role in its function...I really dont care...because I dont have to pay registration each year or to buy my books...Neither to pay for my residence or my food...I dont want to present my country as an example..greek universities have a lot of problems, serious problems...but at least they are public..This should be the demand of all European students...really public universities in the EU..attending a public university without paying is not a luxury, its a right...

Tuesday, December 4 2007

Turkey : A threat to European Democracy or a threat to European Right-Wing Populism?

This is an artcile made by user Daskalos over Turkey's accesion in the EU

Many of us have attended a number of discussions over one of the most controversial topics in European thought and politics, especially when we consider issues such as democracy, human rights, the enlargement of the European Union and perhaps even Islam.

'Should Turkey join the European Union'? 'Isn't Europe a Christian club'? 'Isn't Turkey a backward, Muslim nation bordering the Middle East'? 'Turkey does not respect fundamental human rights!' These are some of the statements often made by politicians, academics, journalists, philosophers, religious authorities and ordinary people all over Europe, from Ireland to Poland and from Portugal to Greece.

On the 3rd of December 2007, German Chancellor Angela Merkel stated that her Christian Democratic Union Party opposes Turkey's bid to join the European Union as a full member. This was the first time she officially opposed Turkish EU accession: "We are, have been and will remain in favour of a privileged partnership with Turkey, but we're against full membership in the European Union," said Merkel in a speech to the Christian Democrats' annual convention in Hanover.

Does this statement reflect well-thought of democratic principles, or is this statement an outright expression of bias? Why is Turkey not worth a European Union membership - have they done something wrong? If Turkey have done something wrong, should they not be given a second chance (after all, wasn't Germany given one)?

Monday, November 26 2007

Looking back to the old days...

There is always a time that you look back to your roots in order to better identify yourself..Modern democracy is not very old if we consider how many centuries the world was ruled by kings, monarchs, priests et.c. But why do we have the image that now, in our days democracy - or better say the republic is old-fashioned? If she looks back to her roots she can find many different types of democracy but what is more known than the old days of the Athenian Democracy ? Historians and political scientists still argue for the very nature of this form of goverment but they agree in three things : Athenian Democracy was the most direct form of democracy, the most long period of direct democracy and the only time that a superpower of its days rose from a democratic form of government. If we all consider ourselves democrates then we all regard Athens as our ancestor, but the question is one : What this ancient knowledge can offer to modern democracies and specially to the European Union? Let's debate over this! What do you think we can do today using elements of the past. Do we need them or not?

Sunday, November 25 2007

Referrenda : a form of direct democracy or a tool in the hands of the government ?

The call for a referrendum is the most common demand of many social and political groups who demand direct democracy institutions and call the people to answer in a series of issues. However there is a lot of discussion on how much representative are the results and if they express the pure will of the people. Even thought referrenda seem to be a positive measure in order to make the system of government more direct, in my point of view referrenda can easily be manipulated from the government. The process - meaning the issue and the way it is given as a question to the people can influence the voters and and give out a result which will be in favor of those who rule. Then national referrenda in France and the Netherlands said a loud 'NO' to the European Constitutional Treaty. However, after the outcome many people and analysts supported that the people in these two countries said 'NO' not to the Treaty itself but to a series of domestic policy issues. The referrendum was for those people a chance to express their general agree or disagree over some governmential decisions and not a direct answer for the content of the Treaty. France voted NO to a possible accesion of Turkey in the EU and NO to president Chirac. The residents of the Netherlands where influenced from the french vote too. On the other hand, Spanish who voted for the Constitutional Treaty probably expressed their support to the newly elected government of Socialists if we take in mind the millions of books presenting the Treaty which were found in rubbish the day after they were given to the people. In Greece there is a proposal of referrendum over the issue of Macedonia and it was made from some political and social groups. According to their viewpoint people should answer if they accept or not a name for F.Y.R.O.M. which will include the term Macedonia. They claim that the vast majority of the greek people will not accept the term in the solution because of sentimental and historical reasons. According to my point of view this will make things worse because the result wont be a direct answer to the question of Macedonia but it will be used as a form of pressure to the Greek government for the general reforms introduced. So isn't it necessary to see how can referrenda will be made in order to express the pure will of the people?

Saturday, November 24 2007

Welcome - ''kalos irthate''

The first greek blog is here !

The greek proposal of the -strongest- european cofee ever and the Athens local group! This blog aims to become a ground for european debate over an issue strongly related to the western thought : democracy and ways to make it deeper - Is it possible to make democracy more direct using our modern technology ? We want you to share with us your thoughts, your ideas and your proposes ! Also, every topic related to Greece and Europe is strongly recommended! You can send it in english or greek and see it available in each language translated ! Welcome- kalos irthate !