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When constructing the blog it was not in my intentions to open a section over greek history but as I have seen from your comments and posts it is a nessecity in order to keep the other section - ''debate on democracy'' clean of  stuff that is not related to the issue. Here you can post whatever you want and debate on every issue related to greek history and international problems connected with Greece. The only thing I want to mention is that debate on history must be on the principles of scientificism. Send me your posts in my email g_kokkolis@yahoo.gr and I will upload them in the blog.

The Greek-Turkish rapprochement and the Greek Orthodox minority of Istanbul: Was the rapprochement helpful for the minority?’’

Even thought the Greek Orthodox minority of Istanbul received a series of guarantees from the Lausanne Treaty of 1923, several events since the 1930’s (mostly linked to Cyprus) led to the diminishing of the community from almost 140,000 people in 1923 to less than 2,000-3,000 today. Turkey, with a series of laws took measures against the community by preventing Greeks from exercising specific trades and professions[1]. The most important measures were the 1932 parliamentary law and the 1942 Whealthy Levy[2] (Varlik Vergisi). However, it is of no doubt that the most catastrophic moments in the minority’s modern history were the Pogrom in September 1955 and the 1964-65 deportation of the Greek citizens of Istanbul. After these events the minority was shrunken to less than 3,000 today.  It is also important to stress that several measures were token in Imvros and Tenedos as well, which resulted to the actual destruction of the Greek communities which were predominant in these islands in 1923[3].

St. George's Church- Ferer, Istanbul. 


As for the Ecumenical Patriarchate, which is supposed to be the ‘spiritual guide’ of the Greek Orthodox community of Istanbul under the Lausanne Treaty, three are the major problems: the first one is the Holy Theological School in Halki (Heybeliada) which was shut down in 1971 and since then the Patriarchate calls for its re-opening. The actual problem which arises is that the Theological School is vital for the Patriarchate to exist, since there it can trains its clergy. Furthermore, since the Turkish law demands that the Patriarch has to be Turkish citizen by birth it can be assumed that with the Halki School closed it is impossible for the Ecumenical Patriarchate to train its prospective Patriarchs.

 

The second major problem is found in Turkey’s denial of a legal personality for the Ecumenical Patriarchate. The imminent effect of this denial is that actually the Patriarchate has no ownership rights. Furthermore,according to a 1974 Turkish Supreme Court of Appeals (Yargitay) decision, the Turkish state does not recognize properties which have been donated after 1936 to religious foundations and whose constitutive document does not explicitly mention the right to acquire property.Also, many Greek Orthodox cemeteries are being ruled by the Turkish local authorities in violation of the Lausanne Treaty (Article 42) and pursuant to Article 160 of the Law on Local Government.

 

Finally, the last problem which the Ecumenical Patriarchate faces is the non-recognition of the Patriarchates ecumenical nature by the Turkish authorities. Turkey suggests that the Patriarchate in Istanbul serves only the Greeks of Turkey and terms such as ecumenical are threatening the sovereignty and the laicité of the Turkish state. However the term ecumenical is not related to politics. It is a clear spiritual and religious title which was given to the Patriarchate of Constantinople (Istanbul) during the 6 century A.D. The peculiarity of the Turkish refusal is that the ecumenical nature of the Patriarchate is been recognized worldwide and the bishop whom they regard as a local is recognized as the spiritual leader of more than 300,000,000 Orthodox Christians around the world.   In terms of operation, the refusal of its ecumenicity prevents the Patriarchate from accepting deacons from outside of Turkey who can permanently work and settle themselves in Turkey.


Consequences from the rapprochement for the minority in Istanbul

As we have seen, the rapprochement process between the two countries helped a lot to the creation of a more ‘constructive’ environment in order to reach a final settlement in the bilateral problems.

Regarding the ‘stricto sensu’ minority problems we can see that things do not seem to have been better for the Greek minority in Istanbul.  The problems are still there, and the fact that Turkey treats the Greek minority in Istanbul under a mindset of reciprocity of the Greek state towards the Muslim minority in Greece leads is heavily paradoxical. The reason I am suggesting this is that minority members in Istanbul are Turkish citizens of Greek origin and therefore Turkey shouldn’t demand ‘exchanges’ from Greece and vice versa. By doing so, both countries are alienating the minorities and actually they lead them to seek assistance from outside, which of course perplexes even more the bilateral relations of these countries. Furthermore, in the case of Turkey I still insist that its attitude towards the minority and especially the Ecumenical Patriarchate is totally insane. The very reason I am suggesting this, is that actually it is for Turkey’s national interests to promote the Ecumenical Patriarchate. One the one hand this would make it easier to diminish its ‘Greek’ character in favor of its ‘ecumenicity’ and on the other hand Turkey would receive credentials as an example of a muslim country which respects minorities and is also the base of an international institution. The latter certainly would improve Turkeys profile as an EU candidate member state. 

During December 2009 the Turkish Ministry of Education announced that there is an ongoing process for the re-opening of the Greek Orthodox Theological School in Halki[4], an event which certainly is a positive one. However, I suggest that it was not the rapprochement process which helps the Patriarchate to improve its situation rather than the charismatic personality of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I. His international magnitude as well as his efforts against climate change ( The so called ‘Green’ Patriarch) and his role in order to open a dialogue with other Christian churches and Islam certainly created a lot of international pressure to Turkey in order to settle the issue[5].  

Theological School of Halki

 The Halki Theological School which remains closed since 1971.


As for the properties of the Greek community and the Patriarchate things seem to be hopeful. The Turkish law which was voted by the Turkish National Assembly makes on February 2008 in order for the country to comply with EU legislation. The ‘‘law 5555’’ certainly helps the situation regarding the properties owned by minorities (which had been confiscated by the Turkish state) however both the EU and the minorities suggest that there are more which are needed to be done. In addition to that, Turkey’s conviction in the ‘Fokas case’[6] created a precedent for members of the Greek community in order to assert their properties.

 

The Panagia Soumela Monastery near Trebizond, a symbol for the Pontian Greeks

Also the Ministry of Culture announced that once a year, a divine liturgy will be allowed to the Panagia Soumela Orthodox Monastery in the Trebizond area[7], a symbol for the refugees of 1922. Certainly many can argue that these moves are only to impress, however if the rapprochement process was not the strategic doctrine in the bilateral relations, nothing of these symbolic moves would have been achieved.   

           

 

Bibliography

 

Aydin, M. and Ifantis, K. (eds)(2004) Turkish-Greek Relations: Escaping from the Security Dilemma in theAegean. London, Routledge.

Constas, D. (1999) The Greek-Turkish Conflict in the 1990s. London: Macmillan, 1999.

Hale, W. (2000) Turkish Foreign Policy, 1774-2000. London, Frank Cass, 2000. 

Holland, Robert. "The Struggle for Mastery, 4 October 1955–9 March 1956," Britain and the Revolt in Cyprus, 1954–59, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1998

Keridis, D. and Triantaphyllou, D. (eds), Greek-Turkish-Relations in the Era of Globalization, London, Brasseys, 2001.

Ker-Lindsay, J., Crisis and Conciliation: A Year of Rapprochement between Greece and Turkey, London, I.B. Tauris, 2007.



[1]Speros Vryonis, Jr. The Mechanism of Catastrophe: The Turkish Pogrom of September 6–7, 1955, and the Destruction of the Greek Community of Istanbul, New York:  2005

[2]Holland, Robert. "The Struggle for Mastery, 4 October 1955–9 March 1956," Britain and the Revolt in Cyprus, 1954–59, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1998, pp. 75–77.

[3] Imvros and Tenedos are located next to the Dardanelles (Canakalle). Both of the islands were inhabited by Greek people who numbered 8,000 and 5,000 respectively. The islands were captured by the Greek navy during the First Balkan War in 1913 and after 12 years of Greek administration were given to Turkey under the Treaty of Lausanne (article 14) because of their strategic importance. Even thought the Greeks of these islands were protected under the Treaty and had a series of rights and privileges, Turkish authorities violated the Treaty by establishing in Imvros an open jail and by expropriating 95% of the arable land which belonged to the Greeks. Today Greeks in Imvros are 400 people and in Tenedos almost 200.

[4] The Holy Theological School of Halki was closed in 1971 by the Turkish authorities according to a law which forbids private universities from functioning.  Since 1998 the issue took an international aspect since the US Congress passed resolutions which supported the re-opening of the School. The Theological School is considered of vital importance for the continuation of the Ecumenical Patriarchate to exist, since it is the only place where future Patriarchs can be trained. For more information about the issue check http://www.patriarchate.org/patriarchate/monasteries-churches/halki.  Also visit mfa.gr and mfa.gov.tr to see the respective approaches for the issue from both countries.

[5] Bartholomew’s interview in channel CBS in December 2009, when he stated that he feels ‘crucified’ and ‘second class citizen’ had a strong impact in the American society and resulted to the expression of international sympathy towards the Patriarchate. Also, various voices in Turkey stated that it is for Turkey’s interest to promote the Ecumenical Patriarchate.   

[6] The Fokas brothers who are living in Katerini, Greece were deprived from their right to inherit their sister Polixeni Pistika (died in 2000), according to the presidential decree of 1964 which confiscated Greek properties. After an 18-year judicial marathon, the two brothers were vindicated by the European Court of Human Rights on September 2009. The Court unanimously demanded from Turkey to return the property to its owners or to reimburse them with the amount of 19 million Euros. Since the Court decided unanimously (even the Turkish judge voted for), Turkey is deprived of its right to exercise appeal. 

[7] The announcement was made by the Minister of Culture of Turkey in late 2009 and involved the re-opening of the Armenian Church in Lake Van as well as the opening of Panagia Sumela once a year for liturgy.

Hellenic Foreign Policy : ''Quo vadis''???

These days in Greece, there is a peculiar sentiment over President Obama's visit in Turkey. Athens believed that bilateral relations with the US will enter in a new era, something which is actually happening...in Turkey!
Therefore, the Greek Foreign Policy didn't know how to react to this american-turkish flirt. It is clear that Obama is trying to promote a new role for Turkey which seems to be the ideal example of a western muslim republic. After Obama's personal involvement in order to persuade Turkey to accept the Danish PM as the new NATO secretary general and the public support of the Turkish candidancy in the EU, the Turks welcomed Obama as a rock-star. Meanwhile, the Greek diplomacy managed to arrange a meeting between PM Karamanlis and President Obama one day before his trip to Turkey, during the NATO summit in Strasbourg - Kehl.
According to my point of view this was a child-like reaction of the Greek diplomacy : Greece realised that now the US dont regard that Turkey and Greece as a ''package'', which seems to be the reality. Greece is regarded as a European country- no matter it's ''peculiar'' characteristics and weaknesses. Apparently, Turkey is not treated that way : Turkey is a huge country, three times the size of Greece, inhabited by eight million people, which neighbours with the sensitive Middle East area and forms a mixture of a western- even weak- republic and the islamic tradition.
The US seem to believe that Turkey can have a key-role in the area, by being the model of the other islamic states.
The question which rises, is not what Turkey is doing in order to strengthen her position worldwide, but what Greece does or not in order to strenghthen its very own position. In most international fora, Greece has only issues of ''national importance'' in the agenda, meaning : Greco-turkish relations, the Cyprus issue and the name of FYROM.
On the contrary, when issues of international interest are on the top of the meetings, Greece doesn't seem to have a position, we just adopt the thesis of our partners. Even in the way we treat our national issues, we do so, by asking the foreigner to take a position in favor of our own ''lawful'', ''true'', ''rightful'' or ''historical'' demands. We are acting like if international fora were a Holy Synod or a meeting of Saints, where issues are solved according to the ''rights of God''. Unfortunately they are not like this, and we should finally understand that the world is not spinning around our national demands and rights. National issues are extremely important and we should give our best in order to promote them but when you have to face international problems like economic repression, climate change, Iraq, Darfur or nuclear weapons you have to have a position. In order to be ''one'' and not''someone'' you have to have a voice, you have to have proposals. You have to see the world, try to understand it and foresee your position within it in the future. This is foreign policy. Otherwise, you will wondering in every recognition of ''Macedonia'' or ''Nothern Cyprus'' or in every trip of every Obama in every Erdogan.

Greece’s Piraeus port, a hub for Chinese goods on the way to European markets and the reactions to the deal; Why?

Yesterday has been signed in Athens, a multibillion – euro port deal between the Piraeus Port Authority (OLP) and one of the most important world port administrators, the Chinese Cosco Pacific Ltd. The agreement is expected to earn Greece € 4,3 billion over 35 year period (Cosco has guaranteed € 3,4 billion of this money), will increase the capacity of the port by up to 250% and will create some 1.000 new jobs for the locals. In addition, the port keeps its public structure and OLP has guaranteed the jobs of the existing personnel of the port. All these sound clear enough.

And then there are the protests. From the opposition and the dockworkers. Why? What is wrong with this deal? What is wrong with Greek ports to operate as transit centers for Chinese products to EU states and to the broader region of Southeastern Europe and to the Eastern Mediterranean? Why always Greeks have to comport like that? Is it only a Greek phenomenon or is it just the job of every -political- opposition to sabotage the common good. Why do they never propose something instead of fighting for maintaining the old situation? The point, for the thesis I am seeking to put forward is that whatever does not evolve is condemned to extinction. Why the unionists and the opposition parties do not propose, any counter-proposal apart from total refusal? Do all of this groups are satisfied with the Greek 'status quo'? Why can't we find our way to the future?

Skopje versus Athens..and the battle goes on!

As you probably know Athens on Tuesday strongly criticised Skopje's decision to file a complaint against Greece in the International Court of Justice, and said FYROM would "remain outside the international organisations it wants to join" during the judicial process. Skopje is accusing Athens of violating the terms of a 1995 UN agreement between them. Is that the case?

Cost of life in Athens

Cost of life in Athens! Welcome to the vibrant city that never sleeps! Night life is in the blood of Greeks and is a major part of their social life. No chance to visit Athens and stay indoors. Traffic jam at 4:00 am is more than a probability... Let’s walkabout in Athens. First, transportation to our destination costs €0,80 (bus, train, metro, tram, trolley) and the ticket is valid for one hour and a half. We choose to start our night to the movies where the ticket costs €7,00 to €7,50. On the other hand what is also very interesting in Athens is the theatre. Greeks love theatre that is why for a capital of a small country you can find more scenes than London. Prices can start from €10-15-20. Then of course we go for a drink. A glass of wine would cost around 5.00€ whereas a glass of Heineken beer would cost €3,50 (25ml) or a Budweiser of 0,33ml round €6.00. Hungry? Big Mac (€3.20) isn’ t actually “bon marché” in Greece, that is why you have to taste the typical greek souvlaki. One “Pita souvlaki” costs about €2.00- 2.30. All that being said, considering what affects most the cost of life in Athens is that all the above can partly take place more than once during the week, they do not represent accurately having fun “à la grecque” and salaries is a whole another story! Total for one person: 16 - 17 € Gia mas!! (γειά μας!)

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Going for a coffee with a Greek...

Actually "Going for a coffee" in Greece it means that for the next at least 2-4 hours you ll be outside with a friend talking..gossiping and of course looking to the other people. So take care when you propose to a greek person to go for a coffee!! More than taste, "going for a coffee" is the prefered by far social activity of the Greeks which explains why coffee is expensive in Greece. 2 kind of traditional coffees: "Φραπέ" / "frappé" / "shaken!!" Is the youngsters favourite and that is why Giorgos has named the greek babelblog "frappebabel". Promise to make to each of you next time we meet..but we are talking about a dynamite for the normal European stomach..no chance to sleep for the next 10 hours. Ah! do not forget that this is always COLD coffee. A usefull link to fully understand the point of view: http://www.frappenation.com/greek/frappe.html 2And a traditional homeroasting coffee named just "greek" which resembles to the turkish and the arab. Many old women like to "read the cup" in order to predict one' s future. Ladies and gentlemen would you like to order...

Enough with the name of Macedonia!

All these days we see a marathon of the greek government to achieve an agreement between herself and the Forme Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia over the name of this country. Both sides are willing to finish with the issue for different issues. While FYROM wants to be invited to join the NATO and so it has to find a solution in order to avoid a greek veto, Greece wants to close an issue that provoked so many problems to her foreign policy. Even though from both sides many extremistes were declaring that Macedonia is Greek or Macedonia is Macedonian I believe that tha majority of the people in both sides clearly understand that the issue of the name is too trivial to cause such great problems. For Greece this story is like a greek tragedy while after so many years of indifference over the issue she faced a non convinient for her reality after the declaration of Macedonia as an indipendant state - even though all these years before, Greece recognized the Republic of Macedonia within the Yugoslavian Federation. I dont want to present the history of the dispute between the two countries. What is important now at this very moment of negotiation is not the name of FYROM. Greece finally understood that she hasnt a monopoly of the name Macedonia because of the ancient legacy. Nobody who knows history in this planet believes that the inhabitants of FYROM are connected to Alexander's kingdom. What we have to understand is that Macedonia is not something that belongs only to one people. Macedonia is rich of multinational coexistance and culture during the Byzantine and Ottoman era, where Serbians, Slavmacedonians, Bulgarians, Jews, Albanians, Greek and Turks lived together. So the name Macedonia means a lot of things to all of these people. So, FYROM has to accept a solution which of course involve the term Macedonia but with a remark that they are not the only Macedonians in the region. Every people in this planet has the right to self -determination so the Macedonians of FYROM. But this right must not insult other nations in order to co-exist in harmony. As a result in order to become a member of NATO and the EU, FYROM has to renounce any possible territorial claim over her neighbours (Greece and Bulgaria) something which is vital for the stability in the region.

Turning point in Cyprus...Is the problem to be solved ?

On Sunday something changed to Cyprus...For the first time a communist candidate was elected President of the Republic..his name Dimitris Xristofias of the AKEL party..For sure this change means a lot of things not only for the free part of the island but also for the nothern -occupied by Turkey- part. Turkish Cypriots are waiting for a solution which now seems to be closer than before since Papadopoulos is no longer in power...however they all know that Cristofia's election was a result of Papadopoulos support which probably means a lot on how will the new president try to reach an agreement with the Turkish Cypriots. However Turkish cypriotic medias covered the issue mentioning that the obstacle of Papadopoulos was overpassed. Mehmet Ali Talat mentioned something very important according to my point of view..that it is urgent for Greek Cypriots to understand that Turkish Cypriotic community is politically equal to the Greek Cypriotic in this island. Personally I agree with this..as long as we dont forget that 27% cannot govern the 73% of the people..and that a state, member of the European Union doesnt need protector states let alone a turkish army in the nothern part..an army of a candidate country which does not recognize a member state..

New Year, an Olympic one. New China ? New Olympics? I don't think so..

Happy New Year everyone!

This year 2 things are going to attract the globe : the American presidential election on November 2008 and the 29th Summer Olympics in Beijing, China. The 8th of August at 8 p.m 2008 we are going to watch the Opening Ceremony of the Beijing Olympic Games and as the creator of the ceremony inform us it is going to present us the chinese culture and history and with them the environmental problems we have to deal with. All these in 2008, the year that China will be the first country to emit Co2 surpassing the amount of the US pollution. China wants to use the Olympics to show the world that is here to stay. Also the cost to organise the Olympics is getting bigger as years pass, making it impossible for smaller countries to host them. Those who believed that the Athens Games would give a spirit in the organisation soon found that sponsorships were bigger than thos of Sydney 2000. However Greece managed to host secure Games and presented an Opening Ceremony which was very different of what we had seen before and was regarded as one of the best one ever. But it didnt manage to change them.. Now it is expected the opposite: while in 2004 all the people expected that with the return to their birthplace the Olympics would change, in 2008 Olympics are expected to change China. But is it going to happen ? Will China change its political system and give more freedoms? Or will things going to get better with Thibet and Taiwan ? Will the Red Dragon decide to adopt a model of green economical development ? I dont think so...While all these happen voices worldwide and especially in Greece believe that the Olympics are nothing more than a big party of politicians, athletes and sponsors and they have nothing to do with the Ancient Games and the romantic era of the Modern Games. Is the Olympic movement on decline? How all these dopping scandals and economic relations with sponsors reflect on its image? Is there any hope to restore their previous glory, or the Olypmic movement today reflects a small image of our world ? A world were money, enterprises and illegal drugs are above human beings ?

Fighting for a historical relic..the modern Macedonian Question

When reffering to Macedonia is very difficult to define of what are you talking about : is Macedonia a georgaphical term, is it a nation and why for eons all these Balkan people fight for this piece of land? Lets split the timeline in three periods..The first one is the ancient era, where Macedonia means an indipendent state ruled by Phillip II and after him Alexander the Great. This state consider of itself to be a part of the greek world. Macedonia shares the same language,culture, religion and joins every pan-hellenic event as for example the Olympic Games. This state under the rule of Alexander united almost all the greek city states and declared war to the Persian Empire. The second period begins from the Roman times and continues to the Byzantine Empire (or Eastern Roman Empire) and her succesor in the area the Ottoman Empire. All this time which is almost 19 centuries Macedonia is called the geographical region of the ancient kingdom which now was a province of all these empires. After Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia became indipendent they all wanted to gain the region of Macedonia because of her strategical and economical importance and because they all had people of the same nation who inhabited Macedonia. During the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913 the united Balkan allies captured Macedonia and with the Bucharest Treaty of 1913 the Ottoman Empire was forced to cede the region to the allies. Greece and Serbia controlled almost the 95 % of the former ottoman region but Greece had the biggest part which also included the capital of the region Thessalonica. The decades following the creation of Yugoslavia under the king Alexander III Karageorgevitc the region of Serbian Macedonia was named Vardaska which means the land of the Vardar river. After Tito came to power and made Yugoslavia a federal stated he changed the name and made it Peoples republic of Macedonia while he cultivated a Macedonian national identity. After the collapse of Yugoslavia the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia declared it's independance and changed her name into Macedonia. This goes to the third period...Macedonia tried to convince the globe that they were the same nation as ancient Macedonia and of course they claimed that Alexander was also a Macedonian. Following that they used the royal emblem of Alexander as their flag and in their school books they claimed that Macedonia was under Greek and Bulgarian occupation. After Greece outrageously rejected all these, there was a negotiation process where F.Y.R.O.M. accepted to join the UN under the name former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and was forced to changed her flag and every territorial claim over the Greek region of Macedonia. All this history is needed to understand why Greeks have emotional reasons of not accepting Macedonia as the name of this country. If we take in mind that much of the greek nationalism is based on Alexander's Macedonia and that nowadays Greece owes almost the 90% of the ancient Macedonia and a huge part of the Ottoman Macedonia then we can understand the sensitivity of the issue. However, the Greeks dont have the exclusivity to the term which is geographical and is vital for FYROM's stability in the interior.Of course this doesn't mean that FYROM or any other country have the right to exclusively use the name of a region - and especially Macedonia which is important for all Balkan people. Personally, I would like in the name of the neighbouring country to be defined that this country is not the whole of Macedonia -which is after all a georgaphical term- but a part of it f.e. Nothern Macedonia, or Slavian Macedonia et.c. Furthermore FYROM must stop fabricating historical facts over ancient Macedonia. In conclusion, the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of FYROM when interviewed said : Of course we have no relation with Ancient Macedonia, but when in Balkans in order to proof a different national existance you have to present history we were forced by you (the Greeks) to fabricate our history.....

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